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[Catfinger]

While I can understand why alot of vegetarians are so, I still think it's pretty silly.

For instance - I hate eating Duck. This is because Ducks are the cutest, funniest, stupidest things ever to roam this planet and I hate the the thought of munching one of those poor bastards. But they're DAMN good.

I believe it's human complete nature to be eating animals. Like a cat in the back garden catching a bird, or a hungry Siberian Tiger ripping up a Bear. And lets face it, the way in which we kill animals is slightly more humane that that.Nature and the food chain is how its always been and how it always should be. How many vegitarian Tigers have you ever seen?

Vegetarians are merely missing out on stupidly nice food and key nutrients just because they feel sorry. but the truth is, vegetarian or not, those animals are going to get killed, bagged up and eaten whether you choose to like it or not.

Let the verbal bashing commence.

[Keith]

The problem with comparing humans to cats is that we are much more evolved. We have something called a choice, a cat does not. If a cat wants to survive, it has to kill. Humans don't have to do that so much, we can let someone else do it for us, or we can choose not to eat meat at all. It's simply a matter of personal preference, if someone doesn't enjoy eating meat or thinking about how the meat is killed and processed, then they choose not to eat it. Then we also have our herbivores, animals that completely live on plants, and do a good job of it. Again it brings us back to choice, humans aren't carnivores, we aren't herbivores, we're omnivores, we eat both or neither. Vegitarians don't lack in nutrients if they do it properly, boca burgers are so much more healthy for you than a hamburger. Personally, I think vegetarians have more of a reason to be vegetarians than cigarette smokers have to be cigarette smokers. At least being a vegetarian doesn't slowly kill you until you die a horrible painful death fifteen years early.

[Carl]

The whole inhumane killing protest is a really stupid reason to go vegetarian. Let's say 1/3 of America decided to go on strike and stop eating meat. Well, there would still be cows and chickens and the like lined up for the slaughter, they'd still be slaughtered, and the rest of the world would still be feasting on their carcasses including the 2/3 of America which didn't give up meat. Those saying "I'll give up meat 'cause its inhumane" don't offset the people who would then say "for every animal you don't eat, I'll eat three".

Also I don't understand people (as I said previously) who refuse to eat meat but then go out and buy all this vegetarian stuff which resembles meat, and that's in essence all they eat as a replacement (no special vegetable dishes, no offsetting the lacked nutrients from other sources, just a raw substitution of non-meats in place of meat). If you're going to go to all that trouble of eating non-meat meat-lookalikes, you should just eat meat, if only because meat generally costs less.

There are certain animals that are really good for food production, and certain animals that are not. We don't eat those animals because there is no real market for them. It could be worse, animal lovers, we could just eat all the animals and not discriminate against the easily domesticated and slaughtered ones. Anyone up for wolves for dinner?

[student]

my sister and mother are vegetarians by religion. it's healther for them cuz my sister is a pussy and when she eats meat she kinda starts to break out in rashes and things like that, not much but after a while they come out. people create those vegetarian meat because when you first start being one it's hard just to go cold turkey. they help cuz they taste almost the same (believe me i know) and they can be quite good. i'll continue to eat meat til i die. my uncle (who's also a vegetarian) once asked me "why would you want to kill another animal for food?" me: "well i'm speeding up their process to being reincarnated "

i dont object to them being vegetarians and they know they can't make me stop eating meat.

[kerri]

I must be the only person in the world that LUVS duck. Sure as heck can't find it anywhere except for $50/plate at some fancy schmancy restaurant.

I would suck as a vegeterian. The only vegetable I will eat is corn and potatoes.

Anyone up for wolves for dinner?

Or cats.

[student]

kerbear come to over to SF, i'll get you some roast duck for dollars i looove roast duck and BBQ pork. i swear to god i love em. you'll be surprised how many dishes you can make with corn and potatos alone. not much... but you'll be surprised.

[Red]

I haven't grasped why people are vegetarians but hey it doesn't bother me. Let people do what they want. I've never had a vegetarian come up to me and ask me why i eat meat or tell me i shouldn't so i don't bother bringing up why they don't eat meat. It's like keith said, it's just a choice, and more meat for me

[Rosa]

i dont like eating meat, even though i was brought up by a machety weilding amazon daddy who strangled a goat infront of me aged 5 and cut the head of a pig infront of me aged 7....

however.....BACON is fucking good.

[jimmy]

i was vegetarian for a while... and i never cracked on people for eating meat. but people were on my case all the time about being a vegetarian. never quite understood that. it doesn't bother me that you eat me, why should you care if i don't.

[student]

I haven't grasped why people are vegetarians but hey it doesn't bother me.

some are vegetarian because buddhist religion believes in reincarnation therefore eating meat means you're eating a person whose soul is inside the animal. then when people ask why i eat meat, i say "cuz they can be reincarnated into a person a lot sooner "

i was vegetarian for a while... and i never cracked on people for eating meat. but people were on my case all the time about being a vegetarian. never quite understood that. it doesn't bother me that you eat me, why should you care if i don't.

because people don't like the abnormal. i always get this question, if your mom and sister are vegetarian why aren't you one? "cuz my mom doesn't cook jackshit for me. my grandma cooks "

[kerri]

Now I have a craving for duck.

[jimmy]

it was a rhetorical question... i know people fear what they do not understand.

and duck is great. some of my best recipes are duck dishes.

[student]

i'll take a drumstick and the neck

[kerri]

Q: Should I cut down on meat and eat more fruits and vegetables?
A: You must grasp logistical efficiencies. What does a cow eat? Hay and corn. And what are these? Vegetables. So a steak is nothing more than an efficient mechanism of delivering vegetables to your system. Need grain? Eat chicken. Beef is also a good source of field grass (green leafy vegetable). And a pork chop can give you 100% of your recommended daily allowance of vegetable products.

[The One]

Here is how Lougan see's it.

You are what you eat. Keith is right. You can get the same protein from veggies that you can from meat. For all the protein you get in a steak, you have to eat about 12 different vegetables. In order to get every amino acid you need. So one 8 oz steak, or 12 servings of different plants. You'd have to eat ALOT of food to get the same nutrients. Plants are 90% cellulose. aka fiber.

Keith is right. Humans are omnivores. And we do have a choice. The thing is, many vegetarians dont make the "right" choice. A boca burger is not more heathy than a hamburger. I'd say they are about the same. If all you ate was hamburgers. You would die. If all you are was boca burgers, you would die. With the hamburger, you would die quick from a heart attack or something. With a boca burger, you would die a slow painful death, where every system shut down from a lack of protein.

There is no healthier lifestyle. Whether you eat meat, or you don't. You have to get the same nutrients. The majority of the vegtarians I have seen look more like people on a fasting, simply because they dont get the right nutrients. They dont even take suppliments. They get sick alot. etc. Jimmy and Emily are the only ones I've seen that did it right.

I love meat. PETA smells of Poo. Go STEAK!

Q: Should I cut down on meat and eat more fruits and vegetables?
A: You must grasp logistical efficiencies. What does a cow eat? Hay and corn. And what are these? Vegetables. So a steak is nothing more than an efficient mechanism of delivering vegetables to your system. Need grain? Eat chicken. Beef is also a good source of field grass (green leafy vegetable). And a pork chop can give you 100% of your recommended daily allowance of vegetable products.

actually. True herbivore mammals do one of two things.

One, they have multiple stomachs, the first ferments the vegatable matter in bacteria, in which the animal throws it up and chews on it more and swallows it, digesting the bacteria for protien. They are known as "cud chewers" cows are a good example. So are horses.

Two, they eat their own feces, which is high in bacterial matter, and they digest those for protien.

[Catfinger]

Heh heh.

Cows eat poo.

[Rynfish]

ill give this response the same that i give alot of things

If it dont affect me, i dont give a shit what people want to do with themselfs

[student]

all of the vegeterian people at my temple aren't skinny at all. some are actually fat. you can thank taco bell and their cheese and bean burritos but i think they know how to keep healthy, it's not like everybody there is skinny down to their ribs.

but lougan here's something

So one 8 oz steak, or 12 servings of different plants.

as i recall a cow eats ___ many grass in order to get enough protein and vitimins to produce that 1 8 oz steak. i can't remember exactly but come on you can feed more people on veggies (not that eating nothing but salad is a lot healthier) than you can with meat. you eat 12 servings of plants that is only 12 servings. but if you eat meat, it takes ___ servings to feed that 1 cow, in order to eat that 8 oz steak. so wouldn't eating veggies be more effcient?

[Rynfish]

so wouldn't eating veggies be more effcient?

Cannableism ay?
i think your right we should eat them all!!!!

bet theyd taste lovelly

[guttergirl]

Lougan, is there anything you don't know?
You are a fountain of information