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I believe in Fate
Started by Usagi, Sep 27 2005 02:19 PM
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Posted 29 November 2005 - 04:37 PM
i believe in fate but also in free will. I will elaborate how this works you have the ability to choose freely however if you try to overcome fate(if you believe in it) you end up trying to pick the thing that you are least likely to do and/or contradict yourself. But, the thing is that whatever you do is written, we have the freedom to choose and in our own free will we choose what we do however to ensure that we have free will, fate is more than likely written a split second before you choose or do what you are going to, this is entirely possible because the electrical signals in you brain and throughout your body move slower than 1km/i think second or hour not sure.
Aaaaaanyhow, the fact is that it doesn't matter and this is an incredibly trivial topic, it's like scientists studying how most of the ducks in north america will be dead within the next like 20 years. Besides we are all going to die someday anyhow, "on a long enough time line, the survival rate for everyone drops to 0."
Aaaaaanyhow, the fact is that it doesn't matter and this is an incredibly trivial topic, it's like scientists studying how most of the ducks in north america will be dead within the next like 20 years. Besides we are all going to die someday anyhow, "on a long enough time line, the survival rate for everyone drops to 0."
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Posted 01 December 2005 - 07:43 PM
I think when you make a decision you go down a certain path and at the end of the path there are more paths to go down where fate is there but you still can make a few decisions. (I know makes no sense)
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Posted 12 January 2006 - 04:55 AM
Id rather think there isn't fate, i'd rather make my own choices in life and be able to either be proud of them or change the way i've done things badly. Either way in the end you will probably choose better than saying well it was fate and its out of my hands, which sorry to say i know a lot of my religious friends say also.
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Posted 13 January 2006 - 06:13 AM
everything is inevitable, if it wasnt, it woudnt happen
^ from some cool movie, best line ever
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Posted 06 February 2007 - 07:03 AM
like noober here, being an actual noob-atron.
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Posted 06 February 2007 - 04:57 PM
QUOTE(Eva:Gina @ Jan 13 2006, 05:13 AM) 
everything is inevitable, if it wasnt, it woudnt happen
Eva, your comment briefly describes a school of thought which has been debated by theologians for a very long time. Do things happen as a result of human choices (consequences), or is fate (supra-human determinism) in control?
Some people mix the two as if to say the consequences of people's actions were determined before their act OR that the supra-human effected their actions to cause the inevitable outcome. In other words, their actions were ultimately irrelevant; the determined fate has always been inevitable.
I personally disagree with this philosophy because (and I'm not getting religious on anyone here) I do not believe God would tell Adam and Eve to not eat the apple to have only determined they would. Let me state this in the form of a question. Why would God tell Adam and Eve to avoid eating the fruit if He had determined they already would?
I am making a few assumptions here: 1. God is good and would not "set up" Adam and Eve, 2. Adam and Eve have the ability to make choices contrary to the command of God.
I believe in the free agency of mankind to make choices of all sorts. These choices are theoretically innumerable; multiplied times the number of people alive makes the future nearly absolutely uncertain. In fact, I even believe God does not know all of the future because of the free agency of man.
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Posted 06 February 2007 - 06:21 PM
we...i believe in a thing called love. GUITAR *solos*
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Posted 28 February 2007 - 04:20 PM
Fates kinda scary, to me it means i have no control over my life and im just a robot following an untold order.
I like having control and making my own decisions, aswell as suffering the consequences from those decisions.
What gets me is that alot of people discard fate when something bad happens, they class fate as the happening of something good which they think is meant to be.
I like having control and making my own decisions, aswell as suffering the consequences from those decisions.
What gets me is that alot of people discard fate when something bad happens, they class fate as the happening of something good which they think is meant to be.
Edited by jam.I.E, 28 February 2007 - 04:21 PM.
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Posted 28 February 2007 - 04:24 PM
jamie...you -are- a fucking bot 
unt i r j00r m4573r.
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Edited by Le Tom, 28 February 2007 - 04:25 PM.
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Posted 28 February 2007 - 04:27 PM
My Rice Krispies Told Me To Do it!!!~
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Posted 15 March 2007 - 07:57 PM
:: pats Jamie on the back ::
Its ok, we know you're not abot.
Its ok, we know you're not abot.
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Posted 15 March 2007 - 07:59 PM
Whats that? Jamie, Tom's roommate that Tom has talked to me about occasionally is a bot, run on a computer in Tom's room, to carry out Tom's secret world overthrowing plans?
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Posted 21 March 2007 - 05:31 PM
ha a hahaha. that made me laugh a little too much 
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Posted 22 March 2007 - 11:50 AM
okay..i agree with everyone else who has said that fate and free will can not go hand in hand.
fate: something that was predestined to happen, happens no matter what descisions a person makes.
free will: a person can make descisions and change the outcome of their life.
personally i believe (and i dont believe in alot) that life is like a 4th grader's drawing of a tree. you have the trunk (that is the beginning of your life). then you make a v in between the two lines that make up the trunk. that is the first big descision of your life. then you draw one v in each opening created by the first v. the left side is what happens and the right is what could have happened.
keep in mind the rest of the tree (the rest of one's life) has not been drawn yet
you continue on each side and pretty soon you just have a whole bunch of mess.
fate: something that was predestined to happen, happens no matter what descisions a person makes.
free will: a person can make descisions and change the outcome of their life.
personally i believe (and i dont believe in alot) that life is like a 4th grader's drawing of a tree. you have the trunk (that is the beginning of your life). then you make a v in between the two lines that make up the trunk. that is the first big descision of your life. then you draw one v in each opening created by the first v. the left side is what happens and the right is what could have happened.
keep in mind the rest of the tree (the rest of one's life) has not been drawn yet
you continue on each side and pretty soon you just have a whole bunch of mess.
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Posted 22 March 2007 - 01:26 PM
So you're saying life is a fractal.
OOOOO PRETTY!
OOOOO PRETTY!
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Posted 22 March 2007 - 02:37 PM
umm not totally sure what a fractal is, but yeah i guess
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Posted 22 March 2007 - 04:30 PM
get out.
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Posted 22 March 2007 - 04:49 PM
....
*leaves*
*leaves*
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Posted 22 March 2007 - 05:02 PM
not you zach, the uneducated knaive
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