I believe in fate and in free will to pick your destiny... meaning you are predestined to choose to do something in a particular way.... i know that seems oxy moronic but it really isn't
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I believe in Fate
Started by Usagi, Sep 27 2005 02:19 PM
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Posted 27 September 2005 - 02:59 PM
i believe fate drew me to post in this thread
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Posted 27 September 2005 - 05:53 PM
i believe you chose to post but fate dictated you would before you chose to
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Posted 27 September 2005 - 06:46 PM
Unfortunately i believe in fate as well, because if I didnt there are certain things that I probably couldnt handle.
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Posted 07 October 2005 - 09:39 PM
Wow. Where to start. First, let me say that I am not attacking you as a person or your beliefs, but, fated freewill is not just oxymoronic but completely incompatible.
To be predestined to make a particular choice cancels out any possiblility of freewill.
One could still have the concept of freewill and believe that they are making their own choices, but ultimately if fate is involved in any way, shape or form, free will is obsolete.
Then again, do we really have free will in our everyday life with the stipulations the government puts on us?
The topic of free will is too subjective anyway, so you can disregard everything that I said.
It's up to you. Either way, we will both continue to breathe.
To be predestined to make a particular choice cancels out any possiblility of freewill.
One could still have the concept of freewill and believe that they are making their own choices, but ultimately if fate is involved in any way, shape or form, free will is obsolete.
Then again, do we really have free will in our everyday life with the stipulations the government puts on us?
The topic of free will is too subjective anyway, so you can disregard everything that I said.
It's up to you. Either way, we will both continue to breathe.
Obligations are so passé.
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Posted 07 October 2005 - 09:47 PM
QUOTE(Corey @ Sep 27 2005, 07:46 PM) 
Unfortunately i believe in fate as well, because if I didnt there are certain things that I probably couldnt handle.
I feel the same way, and it kinda makes me want to throw up when I think about being alone in making decisions that could alter my whole life. But unfortunately for me, I'm at a point in my life where I have to decide on lots of things. dang.
I also believe in fate and free will, and I understand what you mean when you say that it isn't oxymoronic. I'm glad someone else thinks in a way similar to mine.
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Posted 09 October 2005 - 07:24 PM
QUOTE(Stephe @ Oct 7 2005, 10:39 PM)
Wow. Where to start. First, let me say that I am not attacking you as a person or your beliefs, but, fated freewill is not just oxymoronic but completely incompatible.
To be predestined to make a particular choice cancels out any possiblility of freewill.
One could still have the concept of freewill and believe that they are making their own choices, but ultimately if fate is involved in any way, shape or form, free will is obsolete.
Then again, do we really have free will in our everyday life with the stipulations the government puts on us?
The topic of free will is too subjective anyway, so you can disregard everything that I said.
It's up to you. Either way, we will both continue to breathe.
To be predestined to make a particular choice cancels out any possiblility of freewill.
One could still have the concept of freewill and believe that they are making their own choices, but ultimately if fate is involved in any way, shape or form, free will is obsolete.
Then again, do we really have free will in our everyday life with the stipulations the government puts on us?
The topic of free will is too subjective anyway, so you can disregard everything that I said.
It's up to you. Either way, we will both continue to breathe.
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Posted 10 October 2005 - 01:13 AM
free will all the way. fate is cutey and the like, and perhaps we are destined for something, but we decide how to get there, and whether we feel like being destined for it or not.
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Posted 10 October 2005 - 08:01 AM
I believe human beings have the illusion of freewill, and are not governed by "fate" but by neurobiology.
and i am nothing of a builder
but here i dreamt i was an architect
and i built this balustrade
to keep you home, to keep you safe
from the outside world
but the angles and the corners
even though my work is unparalelled
they never seemed to meet
this structure fell about our feet
and we were free to go
but here i dreamt i was an architect
and i built this balustrade
to keep you home, to keep you safe
from the outside world
but the angles and the corners
even though my work is unparalelled
they never seemed to meet
this structure fell about our feet
and we were free to go
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Posted 27 October 2005 - 02:41 PM
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That everyone thinks it is useless, is proof of how great it is.
If it was the kind of thing ordinary people thought was useful,
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Posted 29 October 2005 - 10:47 AM
i think if someone gets hit by a car it is because they walk out in the middle of traffic, not cause they were predestined to do it...so watch out, there's alot of stupid people out there!
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Posted 30 October 2005 - 07:14 PM
the point is they choose do to walk out there but they did that before they could even think to know what consequences would come of it .... it is the combination of everyones choices that in combination that forces our decisions one way or another .... and because all the decisions were made before concept of consequence it is fate that you do it this way and react that way and are forced to be in that street then rather than an hour from now
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Posted 31 October 2005 - 08:51 AM
The butterfly effect rules us all, our decisions are swayed by the decisions of billions.
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Posted 31 October 2005 - 09:47 PM
i think we all watch a little too much tv/movies.
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Posted 01 November 2005 - 08:31 AM
If you're referring to the butterfly effect, maybe you watch too many movies, because you associate the term "butterfly effect" with a movie. The butterfly effect has been around and studied for far longer than Ashton Kutcher has been receiving paychecks.
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Posted 01 November 2005 - 09:18 AM
Maybe we are just over thinking things... we should stop worrying about fate, or what will happen.
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Posted 10 November 2005 - 02:16 PM
QUOTE(Ashe @ Nov 1 2005, 10:43 AM)
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We agree on something!
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Posted 13 November 2005 - 10:33 PM
QUOTE(CaptainHenreh @ Nov 10 2005, 03:16 PM)
We agree on something!
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(although I do usually agree with ashe and occasionally agree with henry, so the point is moot).
and i am nothing of a builder
but here i dreamt i was an architect
and i built this balustrade
to keep you home, to keep you safe
from the outside world
but the angles and the corners
even though my work is unparalelled
they never seemed to meet
this structure fell about our feet
and we were free to go
but here i dreamt i was an architect
and i built this balustrade
to keep you home, to keep you safe
from the outside world
but the angles and the corners
even though my work is unparalelled
they never seemed to meet
this structure fell about our feet
and we were free to go
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