My answer....no
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people have asked me "Does god exist?"
Started by jenn, Oct 14 2005 11:59 AM
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Posted 14 October 2005 - 11:59 AM
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Posted 14 October 2005 - 12:11 PM
My answer: Maybe.
Who's next?
Who's next?
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Posted 14 October 2005 - 01:20 PM
Is there actually gonna be discussion, or just unfounded answers?
I believe in a higher power, somewhere, but I don't believe that a single entity created us. I have many reasons as to why I don't believe in any religion on earth, mainly because all religions believe that theirs is the only one that is right. Religion is a man made ideal. Something that was created before science, before we had answers to such general questions as how do we clean our teeth, how do we function as a society, how do we improve our vision once our eyes get tired... it was created by man, for man, in an effort to believe that we are not alone. It's tough for humans to grasp the fact that our lives mean virtually nothing, and that after death, there may actually be absolutely nothing. I'm not going to go out and say that there IS NOT a god, because I don't know, but I won't put my money on it.
I don't understand how one religion can say that if you do not practice our religion, you go to hell. What about the billion people on the planet who have never even been introduced to your religion? Do they go to hell, too? They did not even have a chance. It's not fair, and I cannot believe that there would be a god that didn't understand fairness.
Everyone has the right to their opinion, so I'm gonna say it here and now, if you are offended by something in this thread, close the window and don't respond. Discuss, don't fight.
I believe in a higher power, somewhere, but I don't believe that a single entity created us. I have many reasons as to why I don't believe in any religion on earth, mainly because all religions believe that theirs is the only one that is right. Religion is a man made ideal. Something that was created before science, before we had answers to such general questions as how do we clean our teeth, how do we function as a society, how do we improve our vision once our eyes get tired... it was created by man, for man, in an effort to believe that we are not alone. It's tough for humans to grasp the fact that our lives mean virtually nothing, and that after death, there may actually be absolutely nothing. I'm not going to go out and say that there IS NOT a god, because I don't know, but I won't put my money on it.
I don't understand how one religion can say that if you do not practice our religion, you go to hell. What about the billion people on the planet who have never even been introduced to your religion? Do they go to hell, too? They did not even have a chance. It's not fair, and I cannot believe that there would be a god that didn't understand fairness.
Everyone has the right to their opinion, so I'm gonna say it here and now, if you are offended by something in this thread, close the window and don't respond. Discuss, don't fight.
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Posted 14 October 2005 - 04:08 PM
So I'm a christian, so obviously I believe in God. However, I am taking a Philosophy of Religion class that discusses God in a metaphysical sense, something that was hard for me to grasp. I always just founded my faith on the bible and that gut feeling that, "yeah, this makes sense"
My class approaches this in a different way, and I think its really neat. It starts with the basic principle that every being has the conditions for its existance either in itself or in another. The thing is, everything we experience right now is caused by something else. We do not have the conditions for our existance in ourselves, but instead our parents. Everything we know is conditioned on somethign else, leaving us with Infinate Regress, where all parts of the chain would be conditioned on something else. A chain like this leaves the conditions unsatisfied, which contradicts the existance of any being's existance.
What that boils down to is the neccesity for at least one unconditional being that has the coinditions for its existance in itself. This being, further down in the argument, is what we call God.
sorry. If anyone wants to hear more about this, let me know. otherwise, i'm just rambling.
My class approaches this in a different way, and I think its really neat. It starts with the basic principle that every being has the conditions for its existance either in itself or in another. The thing is, everything we experience right now is caused by something else. We do not have the conditions for our existance in ourselves, but instead our parents. Everything we know is conditioned on somethign else, leaving us with Infinate Regress, where all parts of the chain would be conditioned on something else. A chain like this leaves the conditions unsatisfied, which contradicts the existance of any being's existance.
What that boils down to is the neccesity for at least one unconditional being that has the coinditions for its existance in itself. This being, further down in the argument, is what we call God.
sorry. If anyone wants to hear more about this, let me know. otherwise, i'm just rambling.
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Posted 14 October 2005 - 05:09 PM
I don't really have a stance on the God issue, because i'm confused by it. I say i'm Catholic, but some practices of the Catholic religion i dissagree with. I believe in something..like there is something out there. I don't believe in Heaven or Hell because when i was little i thought heaven was past the stars and that Hell was below grass and dirt. There is soo much world though, and so many ideas that i'm sort of lost. My brother once said, "Maybe there is a God, if there is i think Earth is one of his failed experiments." Him saying that changed a lot of what i believe, which is probably a good thing. Maybe im just to young to know what i believe in...it's a big world filling my head with many things...i guess one day i'll figure it out for myself.
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Posted 14 October 2005 - 06:18 PM
Personally, I'm hoping that we're all a science experiment. I'd like to think that God would normally get a fairly low grade, but would get mucho bonus points for creativity and humor.
Anyway, as I've said before, agnostic. I'm way too much of a skeptic, really. There's way too many potential options for what might be, and I've yet to see anything that would cancel anything out.
Anyway, as I've said before, agnostic. I'm way too much of a skeptic, really. There's way too many potential options for what might be, and I've yet to see anything that would cancel anything out.
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Posted 14 October 2005 - 06:46 PM
I don't have any belief or faith in any sort of God at the moment.
My analogy: You tell me about your wife, and about how she is a wonderful person. I, not having met your wife, do not have any sort of personal relationship with her, and I can't with certainty tell you if she even exists. However, that does NOT mean that I will belittle your love for her, or even doubt it. But if you deny individual rights or retard the progress of science based on the fact that some other guy told you your wife doesn't approve, that's when we have problems.
My analogy: You tell me about your wife, and about how she is a wonderful person. I, not having met your wife, do not have any sort of personal relationship with her, and I can't with certainty tell you if she even exists. However, that does NOT mean that I will belittle your love for her, or even doubt it. But if you deny individual rights or retard the progress of science based on the fact that some other guy told you your wife doesn't approve, that's when we have problems.
and i am nothing of a builder
but here i dreamt i was an architect
and i built this balustrade
to keep you home, to keep you safe
from the outside world
but the angles and the corners
even though my work is unparalelled
they never seemed to meet
this structure fell about our feet
and we were free to go
but here i dreamt i was an architect
and i built this balustrade
to keep you home, to keep you safe
from the outside world
but the angles and the corners
even though my work is unparalelled
they never seemed to meet
this structure fell about our feet
and we were free to go
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Posted 14 October 2005 - 06:52 PM
Well, for that analogy to really work, that wife would have to have the power to absolutely crush the husband to the point of eternal suffering.
...Wait, never mind.
...Wait, never mind.
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Posted 15 October 2005 - 07:48 AM
I definently believe in God. I'm Protestant and sorta kinda Catholic. It's complicated. I just have always believed and been able to look to God when I was down or up or I just wanted to pray for someone.
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Posted 16 October 2005 - 08:37 AM
QUOTE(Samurai_Goat @ Oct 14 2005, 07:11 PM) 
My answer: Maybe.
Who's next?
i am!
my answer: if you suck my cock.
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Posted 16 October 2005 - 10:16 AM
One can not prove there is a God, scientifically.
One can not prove that there is not a God, scientifically.
Is there a God? Possibly. Probably? Thats for you to decide.
One can not prove that there is not a God, scientifically.
Is there a God? Possibly. Probably? Thats for you to decide.
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Posted 17 October 2005 - 11:20 AM
i just spent about 20 minutes looking for the name of this argument, but no such luck. so i'll try and explain it as well as i can.
we'll put all of the people in the world into two groups - ones who believe in God, and ones who don't.
now there are two possible outcomes in this scenario - there either is a God, or there isn't.
now the people who believe in God are good either way - if there is a God, then they will go to heaven. if there isn't, then they were just good people in their life.
but the people who don't believe in God have a 50/50 chance of being okay. if there is a God, then they will suffer the consequences. if not, then they're off scot free.
this doesn't quite justify my beliefs, i'm just putting it out there. i believe in God pretty fully - of course i still question His existence and many other things about my faith. but if you can't question your beliefs, then they will never grow.
i'll post more about this topic later when i have more time. religion and politics are my two fave things to talk about.
we'll put all of the people in the world into two groups - ones who believe in God, and ones who don't.
now there are two possible outcomes in this scenario - there either is a God, or there isn't.
now the people who believe in God are good either way - if there is a God, then they will go to heaven. if there isn't, then they were just good people in their life.
but the people who don't believe in God have a 50/50 chance of being okay. if there is a God, then they will suffer the consequences. if not, then they're off scot free.
this doesn't quite justify my beliefs, i'm just putting it out there. i believe in God pretty fully - of course i still question His existence and many other things about my faith. but if you can't question your beliefs, then they will never grow.
i'll post more about this topic later when i have more time. religion and politics are my two fave things to talk about.
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Posted 17 October 2005 - 02:16 PM
Yeah, I remember that, Kahla. Problem is, if there is some higher power, it's not that we have a 50/50. I mean, how many religions are there, all saying you can go to [place of torment] if you don't do [certain things]? If you don't believe, or believe in one of the 517 TRILLION other religions [this is a gross overstatement for comedic effect. There's actually only 213 trillion other religions], then you still burn.
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Posted 17 October 2005 - 03:35 PM
i think whatever you believe in is what's goingto be there when you die
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Posted 17 October 2005 - 04:38 PM
there HAS to b a higher power.
a couple scientists in england got together a few years ago and came up with the odds of some primal ooze suddenly springing forth life. they said that it is more likely that a single person would win EVERY SINGLE LOTTERY IN HIS/HER LIFETIME, but nnot by buying a ticket, BY FINDING EACH AND EVERY WINNING TICKET ON THE GROUND. believe in a higher power now bitch?
a couple scientists in england got together a few years ago and came up with the odds of some primal ooze suddenly springing forth life. they said that it is more likely that a single person would win EVERY SINGLE LOTTERY IN HIS/HER LIFETIME, but nnot by buying a ticket, BY FINDING EACH AND EVERY WINNING TICKET ON THE GROUND. believe in a higher power now bitch?
i think i might be dying, that or it's just wishfull thinking
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Posted 17 October 2005 - 04:45 PM
QUOTE(DEVIN @ Oct 17 2005, 05:38 PM)
there HAS to b a higher power.
a couple scientists in england got together a few years ago and came up with the odds of some primal ooze suddenly springing forth life. they said that it is more likely that a single person would win EVERY SINGLE LOTTERY IN HIS/HER LIFETIME, but nnot by buying a ticket, BY FINDING EACH AND EVERY WINNING TICKET ON THE GROUND. believe in a higher power now bitch?
not according to the information, no. i'm not being mean or anything, but i'd like a link.
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Posted 17 October 2005 - 04:58 PM
yeah, that kinda confuses me.
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i'm wanting this to be
a super natural flood of life
and not just make believe
Red - "I want to be a princess with kahla <3"
Great Sensei Largo "But if Kahla is gone, WHO WILL TAKE ME TO THE PROM!!"
i'm wanting this to be
a super natural flood of life
and not just make believe
Red - "I want to be a princess with kahla <3"
Great Sensei Largo "But if Kahla is gone, WHO WILL TAKE ME TO THE PROM!!"
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Posted 17 October 2005 - 05:02 PM
there is no link, CUZ THE GOVERNMENT WON'T LET THE SITE GO UP!!!! +that was a giant lie to get all the retards out there to beleave in a higher power
i think i might be dying, that or it's just wishfull thinking
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