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#1 norcaljustice

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Posted 16 October 2006 - 04:03 AM

The other day I was driving, it was about 3:30 in the morning and I came to a stop sign. I slowed down; applying my breaks made a quick stop and proceeded. A little bit down the road I see flashing lights behind me, of Corse it?s a cop. So I pull over, about 10 minutes later he finally got out of his car and walked over to mine. He asks, "Do you know why I pulled you over?" I reply no, because I don?t know what he is pulling me over for and I don?t want to guess and self incriminate me. So he tells me that I ran that stop sign back there. I reply, "What?" He tells me that I blew through that stop sign. I explain to him that I in fact did not run that stop sign, that I did in fact apply my braks. I tell him that, yes I did not make a full 3 second stop, but I did not blow through it. He gives me a ticket and tells me I can fight it in court. I figure going to court would waste of my time, seeing how there is no way to prove it, that it would be a case of he said she said.

I don't consider this running a stop sign, just for the main fact that my brakes were being applied. That I did stop, just not for a full 3 seconds. I feel that in order to be considered running a stop sign, you drive right through it without any intention of stopping or slowing down.

So I'm curious as to how you all fell about this. Is that considered running the stop sign? What do you consider running a stop sign?

Also if I did take this to court how could I fight my case?

Edited by norcaljustice, 16 October 2006 - 04:10 AM.


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Posted 16 October 2006 - 04:59 AM

holy shit.  you got ticketed for doing a california stop in California?

sucks to be you.

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Posted 16 October 2006 - 05:14 AM

Fucking tell me about it. It's fucking ridiculous.

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Posted 16 October 2006 - 10:33 AM

Slow 'n' go tickets suck, though I've never gotten one.

I don't know anything about California traffic law, but I'm guessing you're fucked. Traffic court is a joke, guilty until proven innocent. Since the worst that can happen if you go to court is that you pay the fine (same as you'd pay if you didn't go to court) I'd say go to court, explain that you came to a complete stop and looked both ways to ensure there was no oncoming traffic before proceeding, and that the officer must be mistaken. You might get off, or have a reduced fine.

Unless you didn't come to a complete stop. Then, you deserve the ticket.

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Posted 16 October 2006 - 11:14 AM

That was how I failed my driver's test the first time. The examiner said I rolled through the stop sign. Automatic failure. I swear I stopped but not the full three seconds I admit. Sorry about your ticket it sucks.
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Posted 16 October 2006 - 11:21 AM

QUOTE(CaptainHenreh @ Oct 16 2006, 09:33 AM) View Post

Unless you didn't come to a complete stop. Then, you deserve the ticket.


I did not come to a full complete stop, though I did Stop just not for the full 3 seconds. I'm not saying I don't deserve the ticket. I just dont like how the cop said I blew through it. Thats what is pissing me off. If he would have said I'm pulling you over for not making a full 3 second stop that would ne fine, that is the crime I commited.


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Posted 16 October 2006 - 11:34 AM

sounds like a rolling stop and yea those are illegal and really it doesnt matter what the cop says to you because you'll end up paying the ticket fines in the end anyway

and what hte fuck is with this IPB warning shit

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Posted 16 October 2006 - 12:02 PM

QUOTE(norcaljustice @ Oct 16 2006, 01:21 PM) View Post

I did not come to a full complete stop, though I did Stop just not for the full 3 seconds. I'm not saying I don't deserve the ticket. I just dont like how the cop said I blew through it. Thats what is pissing me off. If he would have said I'm pulling you over for not making a full 3 second stop that would ne fine, that is the crime I commited.


I'm confused. Did you cease forward motion or not?

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Posted 17 October 2006 - 03:31 AM

It was one of those quick apply brakes, and then quick let off.

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Posted 17 October 2006 - 08:18 AM

Yeah, thats not a stop.
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Posted 17 October 2006 - 12:24 PM

If your speedometer doesn't go to 0, you haven't stopped.  I hate people who just "slow down" at stop signs.  Stop signs mean STOP, not "go to 6 mph for a second and then speed up again".  It endangers people and furthermore proves that whoever did that is an idiot because they can't associate a simple sign.

Now 3 seconds or whatever, I have no idea about that, I just register other people as stopped or not stopped.  I don't know any traffic laws, but I've never gotten a ticket, either.

I hope you get off of paying your fine, but still, a Stop sign means to stop the car, not just slow down. </lecture>

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Posted 17 October 2006 - 07:09 PM

Personally, I think you deserve the ticket. You didn't stop. Sorry.

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Posted 17 October 2006 - 07:42 PM

Sorry, bubs. Cops have to give a certain amount of tickets per month, and not stopping at a stop sign just eases their burden a little bit. Sorry, you're screwed.


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Posted 17 October 2006 - 08:45 PM

At 3:30 AM cops look for stuff a lot more carefully, just because there are fewer people causing infractions.  They're bored.

And they want to see if you're drunk.
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Posted 18 October 2006 - 06:40 AM

You still haven't actually addressed the question.  Did you STOP, or not?  I know the answer, because you've IMPLIED it, but you haven't admitted it.  You did not stop.  You slowed down to a point where you were barely moving, and sped back up, but that does not constitute a stop.  I think 55mph speed limits on the interstate are bullshit, but I still have to pay a ticket when I get pulled over for going 61.  Next time, stop.
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Posted 18 October 2006 - 12:39 PM

Breakin' the law! Breakin' the law!


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Posted 18 October 2006 - 11:49 PM

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Posted 19 October 2006 - 07:42 AM

I know I didn't make a legal stop at a stop sign. I'm not mad that I got the ticket  know I deserve it. It is just the fact that the cop said That I blew throught it. Thats not whay I constitute as blowing through it.

But whatever It's paid, and it was only 30 bucks. So I figured to not even waste my time to fight something I cant prove.

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Posted 19 October 2006 - 09:02 AM

a) this reminds me of the girl in my directing class bitching about a $260 ticket for going 88 in a 65. SHUT THE FUCK UP! YOU WERE GOING 23 MILES OVER THE LIMIT! THATS WRECKLESS YOU STUPID BITCH! cops don't care its your first time, thats too fucking fast! [/rant]

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Posted 19 October 2006 - 12:30 PM

Im not whining about the ticket or the fine, I'm not whining at all. Like I said I know I deserve it. It was just what the cop said that irritated me.




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